Discussion:
Event ID 6161 for HP 6840
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KenMon
2005-10-12 17:09:02 UTC
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Hi,

I have just installed an HP DeskJet 6840. This printer includes a built-in
ethernet adapter with an HP Jet Direct print server.

There were no problems with the install and the printer works find so long
as I am logged in on the admin account. Any attempt to print (Word, notepad,
test page) from a non-admin account fails with the job hung in the queue with
a status of "Print - failed" and must be purged.

I have seen similar posts in this forum and so, for the record:

1) All machines are running Windows XP with all current services packs
and patches.

2) All users have Print and Manage permissions.

3) All machines on the network can connect to the printer via Internet
Explorer.

4) Yes, I have read the Sanders posting at:

http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/Printing%20to%20Print%20Server%20device.htm

His advice seems odd as he recommends installing to a single machine via a
network port and then adding a share for all the other machines. Why pay for
the print server, just to use a single machine to connect and then share?
USB is lots cheaper…

5) Yes, I have contacted HP. That was a waste of time. I chatted with two
techs (the first bailed when he read the description – just closed out of the
session) and the only advice was to uninstall and reinstall. More wasted
time, problem still there.

Any other ideas?

Cheers

Ken
Cari (MS-MVP)
2005-10-12 18:45:46 UTC
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Update all your Microsoft Office products.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging
Post by KenMon
Hi,
I have just installed an HP DeskJet 6840. This printer includes a built-in
ethernet adapter with an HP Jet Direct print server.
There were no problems with the install and the printer works find so long
as I am logged in on the admin account. Any attempt to print (Word, notepad,
test page) from a non-admin account fails with the job hung in the queue with
a status of "Print - failed" and must be purged.
1) All machines are running Windows XP with all current services packs
and patches.
2) All users have Print and Manage permissions.
3) All machines on the network can connect to the printer via Internet
Explorer.
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/Printing%20to%20Print%20Server%20device.htm
His advice seems odd as he recommends installing to a single machine via a
network port and then adding a share for all the other machines. Why pay for
the print server, just to use a single machine to connect and then share?
USB is lots cheaper.
5) Yes, I have contacted HP. That was a waste of time. I chatted with two
techs (the first bailed when he read the description - just closed out of
the
session) and the only advice was to uninstall and reinstall. More wasted
time, problem still there.
Any other ideas?
Cheers
Ken
Alan Morris
2005-10-12 22:01:40 UTC
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Event 6161 will also return the Win32 error code. If it error 5 that is
access denied. Without knowing the driver I am not sure where it is
attempting to write data. Try \windows\system32\spool\printers or
\windows\temp. If you get error 0 it's usually in the print processor, set
this to winprint on the Advanced tab of printer properties to see if that
resolves the issue.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
Post by KenMon
Hi,
I have just installed an HP DeskJet 6840. This printer includes a built-in
ethernet adapter with an HP Jet Direct print server.
There were no problems with the install and the printer works find so long
as I am logged in on the admin account. Any attempt to print (Word, notepad,
test page) from a non-admin account fails with the job hung in the queue with
a status of "Print - failed" and must be purged.
1) All machines are running Windows XP with all current services packs
and patches.
2) All users have Print and Manage permissions.
3) All machines on the network can connect to the printer via Internet
Explorer.
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/Printing%20to%20Print%20Server%20device.htm
Post by KenMon
His advice seems odd as he recommends installing to a single machine via a
network port and then adding a share for all the other machines. Why pay for
the print server, just to use a single machine to connect and then share?
USB is lots cheaper.
5) Yes, I have contacted HP. That was a waste of time. I chatted with two
techs (the first bailed when he read the description - just closed out of
the
Post by KenMon
session) and the only advice was to uninstall and reinstall. More wasted
time, problem still there.
Any other ideas?
Cheers
Ken
KenMon
2005-10-13 01:33:03 UTC
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Thanks for the replies.

I managed a workaround.

I found an earlier post from late August in this group regarding a security
patch related to an exposure via the print spooler service (KB896423). The
user in this case backed the patch off and his error went away.

I did not wish to start swaping patches around, so I used another trick that
has worked in the past for sharing printers that do not have network capable
drivers. I uninstalled all the HP software and reinstalled from the latest
download (not the CD) which offers the option of a local (LPTx,COMx) port. I
installed the driver and (lying through my teeth) told it that the printer
was on COM1. After that, I added a Microsoft Standard TCP/IP port for the
real printer at its fixed IP and then swapped the printer from COM1 to the IP
port. Voila! It works!

If it is so that this patch was the root, then HP needs to update their
TCP/IP port driver.

The only downside is that I blew over 6 hours on this problem...shheeesh!

HTH

Ken
Post by Alan Morris
Event 6161 will also return the Win32 error code. If it error 5 that is
access denied. Without knowing the driver I am not sure where it is
attempting to write data. Try \windows\system32\spool\printers or
\windows\temp. If you get error 0 it's usually in the print processor, set
this to winprint on the Advanced tab of printer properties to see if that
resolves the issue.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
Post by KenMon
Hi,
I have just installed an HP DeskJet 6840. This printer includes a
built-in
Post by KenMon
ethernet adapter with an HP Jet Direct print server.
There were no problems with the install and the printer works find so long
as I am logged in on the admin account. Any attempt to print (Word,
notepad,
Post by KenMon
test page) from a non-admin account fails with the job hung in the queue
with
Post by KenMon
a status of "Print - failed" and must be purged.
1) All machines are running Windows XP with all current services packs
and patches.
2) All users have Print and Manage permissions.
3) All machines on the network can connect to the printer via Internet
Explorer.
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/Printing%20to%20Print%20Server%20device.htm
Post by KenMon
His advice seems odd as he recommends installing to a single machine via
a
Post by KenMon
network port and then adding a share for all the other machines. Why pay
for
Post by KenMon
the print server, just to use a single machine to connect and then share?
USB is lots cheaper.
5) Yes, I have contacted HP. That was a waste of time. I chatted with
two
Post by KenMon
techs (the first bailed when he read the description - just closed out of
the
Post by KenMon
session) and the only advice was to uninstall and reinstall. More wasted
time, problem still there.
Any other ideas?
Cheers
Ken
Alan Morris
2005-10-13 16:50:46 UTC
Permalink
So the previous Port was the HP Standard TCP/IP Port. I'd like to pass the
information along to HP (they have driver developers here at MS).
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
Post by KenMon
Thanks for the replies.
I managed a workaround.
I found an earlier post from late August in this group regarding a security
patch related to an exposure via the print spooler service (KB896423).
The
Post by KenMon
user in this case backed the patch off and his error went away.
I did not wish to start swaping patches around, so I used another trick that
has worked in the past for sharing printers that do not have network capable
drivers. I uninstalled all the HP software and reinstalled from the latest
download (not the CD) which offers the option of a local (LPTx,COMx) port.
I
Post by KenMon
installed the driver and (lying through my teeth) told it that the printer
was on COM1. After that, I added a Microsoft Standard TCP/IP port for the
real printer at its fixed IP and then swapped the printer from COM1 to the IP
port. Voila! It works!
If it is so that this patch was the root, then HP needs to update their
TCP/IP port driver.
The only downside is that I blew over 6 hours on this problem...shheeesh!
HTH
Ken
Post by Alan Morris
Event 6161 will also return the Win32 error code. If it error 5 that is
access denied. Without knowing the driver I am not sure where it is
attempting to write data. Try \windows\system32\spool\printers or
\windows\temp. If you get error 0 it's usually in the print processor, set
this to winprint on the Advanced tab of printer properties to see if that
resolves the issue.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
Post by KenMon
Hi,
I have just installed an HP DeskJet 6840. This printer includes a
built-in
Post by KenMon
ethernet adapter with an HP Jet Direct print server.
There were no problems with the install and the printer works find so long
as I am logged in on the admin account. Any attempt to print (Word,
notepad,
Post by KenMon
test page) from a non-admin account fails with the job hung in the queue
with
Post by KenMon
a status of "Print - failed" and must be purged.
1) All machines are running Windows XP with all current services packs
and patches.
2) All users have Print and Manage permissions.
3) All machines on the network can connect to the printer via Internet
Explorer.
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/Printing%20to%20Print%20Server%20device.htm
Post by KenMon
Post by Alan Morris
Post by KenMon
His advice seems odd as he recommends installing to a single machine via
a
Post by KenMon
network port and then adding a share for all the other machines. Why pay
for
Post by KenMon
the print server, just to use a single machine to connect and then share?
USB is lots cheaper.
5) Yes, I have contacted HP. That was a waste of time. I chatted with
two
Post by KenMon
techs (the first bailed when he read the description - just closed out of
the
Post by KenMon
session) and the only advice was to uninstall and reinstall. More wasted
time, problem still there.
Any other ideas?
Cheers
Ken
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